The Kite Runner Blogsite - Period 8/9 - Foundations of World Literature Honors
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Welcome to your very own Period 8/9 blogsite! My goal with this blog is to extend our conversations about the beautiful novel The Kite Runner beyond our classroom. You should use this as a sounding board to vent about the book, as a place to ask questions, as a place to discuss reactions, and a place to practice writing about literature. I will be posting a question on here about once a day or two. My only requirements for you here are as follows:Check the blog and respond to any and all questions I postYou may react to someone else's questions/statements if you choose to do that insteadYou must use courtesy and politeness on here! (clean language!)You must use your best critical thinking skills on here!Have fun!Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions or problems with this.Happy Blogging!!
Welcome to your very own Period 8/9 blogsite! My goal with this blog is to extend our conversations about the beautiful novel The Kite Runner beyond our classroom. You should use this as a sounding board to vent about the book, as a place to ask questions, as a place to discuss reactions, and a place to practice writing about literature. I will be posting a question on here about once a day or two. My only requirements for you here are as follows:Check the blog and respond to any and all questions I postYou may react to someone else's questions/statements if you choose to do that insteadYou must use courtesy and politeness on here! (clean language!)You must use your best critical thinking skills on here!Have fun!Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions or problems with this.Happy Blogging!!
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When Amir and Baba move to California, their relationship changes and they grow closer. Amir begins to see more of his father and realizes that Baba is more complex than he had once thought. I think that the changed in Baba are more positive than negative. He begins to accept his son for who he is and respects him more. He sets up Amir's engagement, and seeing his son get married is one of the happiest days of his life. He works hard to earn money for himself and Amir, which shows what a hard-worker he is. Once Amir graduates high school, Baba is so proud of Amir, which was not common when they had lived in Afghanistan. I think that once they move to the United States, Baba changes in a very positive way.
In Afghanistan, Baba was extremely powerful, influential, and wealthy and often treated Amir with disrespect and thought of himself as higher. However, once they moved to America, Baba realized that he was not the same powerful man he was back in Afghanistan. In this way, he starts to respect Amir's opinions and wishes, and acts more as an equal to Amir. I think these changes are positive because Baba learned that he is not always going to have an easy life, and that some support will help him through hard times.
I think the changes in Baba are more positive than tragic after he moves to America. Even after having endured the pain of leaving his native country and moving to a completely foreign land, Baba still manages to retain his fundamental morals and beliefs. For example never allowing himself to be seen as someone who needs help, when he refuses the food stamps. By asking Soraya to read to stories from Amir's notebook, he also manages to accept the fact that what his son truly desires is to become a successful writer . I think Baba is able to respect his son's dreams more in the U.S. because their father-son relationship isn't constrained by the expectations and standards of Afghan society.
It's kind of weird to say, but I was really happy when Amir and Baba came to their new lives. Yeah, they were stripped of their class and money but the fact that they grew so much closer together as a family made up for it in a way. The irony of it all is that they formed a stronger bond after a few years in America than in 18 in Afghanistan, and that if they had been like this a few years before, maybe Hassan and Ali would still be parts of the family too.
At a first glance, this twist of fate looks like it ends Baba's life in tragedy. The States give him no political status or power, and without either of these his passion of devoting his life to others is left to himself and Amir. He trades his white-collar for a blue one and slowly withers away with each cancerous breath. But with finally seeing his son mature, age, and marry I find it hard to believe that Baba didn't die a happier man.
Once they move to the United States, Amir and Baba begin to grow closer. Their relationship improves, partially because Amir matures, and partially because Baba changes. The changes in Baba are both positive and tragic.
In Afghanistan, Baba had a great life. He had power, money, and success. Once he moved to the States he lost this "easy" aspect to his life, and began to work hard just to earn a living. He does not complain about it, and he is working very hard mainly so that Amir can live the life he wants. While it is tragic that Baba's status changed, and he yearns for his old life,the positive change is that he became closer to Amir. Its is also that his attitude toward life in general did not change even after he lost the life he had been accustomed to.
In Afghanistan, Baba was in high class society. He was very powerful and highly respected. He didnt have hard labor jobs in Afghanistan. He treated Amir poorly by not treating him like his own son. Once he moved to America, he learned that life in America was very different from the life in Afghanistan. He was not as powerful and rich in America than in Afghanistan. He is able to communicate better with Amir in America because they didnt have to go though the lifestyles and pressure in Afghanistan. The changes in Baba is more on the positive side because he is able to raise his child in a better society.
In Afghanistan, Baba and Amir have a strained relationship, but when they move to the United States, they become closer, and Baba seems to appreciate Amir more. I think this is a positive change because although they have to give up their wealth and status from Afghanistan, Baba becomes a better parent. He becomes proud of Amir for doing things like graduating high school and getting married. If they lived in Afghanistan, Baba may have had a different view on Amir, so i think this change is for the better.
In Afghanistan, Amir was treated as a lesser individual then Baba. Whatever he thought or wanted wasn't any concern to Baba. Now in the U.S. Baba isn't the powerful being he once was. He isn't rich and the new living conditions force Baba to treat Amir as an individual. He starts to respect Amir's thoughts and opinions and because of that there relationship grows closer. The changes are positive because Baba understands that life is hard now. He will have to live a hard life working many hour at a gas station. Also he will have to learn to rely on Amir.
Before they lived in America, Baba and Amir could barely be considered father and son, as no such close relationship existed between them. In fact, Baba more or less was a benefactor to Amir and just saw him as existing with Rahim Khan being Amir's father figure. Because of the fact they were all they were the only people each other knew, they gained a new respect for each other. Baba felt able to do fatherly duties to Amir, like give him advice and ask his yet-to-be finance's father for permission to marry her daughter. Also, Baba seems to believe that the happiest moment of his life is Amir graduation, while he just seem to say "good job son" on any of Amir's accomplishments in Afghanistan. On Amir's side, he feels comfortable talking to his father about pursuing a career as an author, something he would never say in Afghanistan, in addition to standing up for Baba when Baba was accused of trying stealing oranges and Amir tried to make Baba try to survive cancer (in which Baba was too stern to try treatments) and even then tried to make Baba's life fruitful even in his last days. It seems impossible that such changes as those could be seen as negative, even if they lacked the extreme wealth they had in Afghanistan.
When Amir and Baba moved to the states they grew closer together as father and son. Baba finally starts to give Amir the respect he has always craved. In Afghanistan Baba always treated Amir like he didn't want him around and he didnt accept him as his son. But once they move to america this all changed and ther relationship grew and strenthened. Then they start to enjoy each others company more and respect each other more as people, so this change was a good thing in Baba.
The changes in Baba are more positive than tragic. When he gets to America, his relationship with Amir becomes stronger than it ever was in Afghanistan. When Baba comes to America, he realizes that he shouldn't neglect his son for his faults (like he did in Afghanistan) but see the good in him and be happy with the things that Amir does have, like his superior writing ability. Baba begins to respect Amir more and support him, which brought them closer together. Although Baba changed very much, his complexity consisted of many of his older values, like not taking charity and working for money. Though it was tragic for Baba to leave his "watan" where he built such a prosperous life for himself, he gained something much more valuable than his old life, a deeper bond with his son.
Baba and Amir become much closer because of their lower economic status. In Afghanistan, when Baba was rich and powerful, he was preoccupied with building an orphanage. However, in America, Baba and Amir overcome financial hardship together. They bond over their weekly treks to neighborhood garage sales and the flea market. Amir does not have to compete wiht Hassan anymore either.
I thought the changes in Baba were bittersweet. I love how he came to appreciate Amir and finally accepted Amir's dream of becoming a writer.
However, it is tragic how Baba, once a strong and imposing man, shrinks into a weak version of what he used to be.
When Amir and Baba move to the US, Amir realizes that there is far more to Baba than he thought. Moving to the states causes Baba to work harder to support Amir. This has a tragic effect because Baba grows weaker and more stressed out as the years go by. However, the main change that Baba goes through is a positive one. He develops a stronger bond with Amir because in America Baba can accept who and what his son has become. In the US, being a writer is fine, unlike in Afghanistan, where Amir's ability to read and write well was not a "normal" talent for Baba to take pride in. Baba becomes proud of Amir's accomplishments and gladly supports him. Everything that Baba does now is for his son's benefit.
Aside from all the other things that other people mentioned, and I dont want to repeat, (I'll try to keep this short) Amir and Baba's relationship, of course, changes drastically. I think those changes are both positive and tragic in their own ways. The changes are positive, of course, because it brings them both closer, to a point of understanding. Amir has a clearer assumption of his father, because he stayed so strong through their arduous time together. Baba understands his son a little better, accepting the fact that he couldn't ignore him anymore, and that Amir had a talent which he soon came to be proud of, or at least, more than he was before.
I also think that the changes in their relationship are somewhat tragic. If the war had never happened and they'd never left Afghanistan, I think their relationship would stay the same. It's as if, the war forced them to become closer. Amir was still a child, and a bit naive, so Baba was forced to take care of him. He could no longer ignore him, because Baba knew that Amir would someday be on him own. The only reason why Baba would become closer to Amir is because Amir needed someone to reply on. Baba didnt really need any, because he was still pretty well-known in the Afghan community. If they had not been forced on this journey together, their relationship would still have gone nowhere.
But anyways, let's not think about the tragic 'what ifs', because their relationship has moved toward the positive side. The war had forced them to become closer... and lets just leave it at that, because there is so much more i can ramble about, and it's 12 am...
Amir and Baba had a rocky relationship back in Afghanistan. Amir only wanted to please his father, but Baba wanted nothing to do with his immature son. Once they got to the US, Amir saw that Baba was a hard working man who wasn't just a rich old guy who sat around and did nothing. Baba saw Amir grow and mature into a hard working gentleman, of which he was very proud.
This was a positive change in Baba because before this move, he only thought of himself as upper class and above everyone else, but in America, he realized that he was just like everyone else. His change was so dramatic that he even respected his son enough to ask for a woman's hand to marry his son. Amir asked, but the old Baba would've put Amir's thoughts off to the side and not worried about what he said. This new Baba was a change for the better.
I AGREE WITH JASON!!
In Afghanistan, Amir lived to please his father and Baba just couldnt believe that Amir could possibly be his son. When they came to America their relationship changed in a more positive way than a negative. Amir came to know that his father a fun, determined, proud man. He is known to be the life of the party. We all know that Amir secretly admires Baba's bravery and wishes he could be brave as Baba but he's a coward and has no guts to stand up for the things he believes in (well at the end of the book he can really take a beating.) Anyways... yes i think their relationship has improved. Baba now knows that Amir loves to write stories and want to become an author. Amir has learned alot more about Baba and changed his view about his father. The low class envionrment had really made Amir n Baba work together and make them closer!
Baba and Amir's relationship makes a dramatic change after living in California for a few years. Both characters change: Amir matures and Baba's respect for Amir takes a turn. Baba used to see Amir as a boy who couldn't stand up for himself and as someone unworthy of his devotion and love. Now, as he sees Amir graduate high school, strive to become an author, and eventually marry, he treats Amir more respectfully. Even before that, he proves his change of character by lowering his once honorable reputation and working in a gas station to provide for himself and his son's education. He has accepted the person his son has become. In Afghanistan, a son aspiring to be a writer would be frowned upon by society. However, America changed that for Baba. These changes in Baba are both positive (for obvious reasons), and tragic because his life in Afghanistan was reasonably better. His health steadily declines as his fights cancer whilst providing for Amir. Along with these changes in Baba, Amir begins to see another side of Baba's personality. Maybe, it seemed, Baba wanted to prove that anything could be done once a mind was set to it. Or perhaps he did such great things to attone his own sins.
Amir and Baba become closer after they move to America because they work together to start a new life. In Afghanistan, Baba worked often and therefore didn't spend enough time with Amir to really bond.Baba's pride and diligence become even more evident to Amir and Amir becomes less of a disappointment to Baba.
The changes in Baba are mostly positive because the relationship between him and Amir improved. It is tragic that Baba became sick and died, but some of is happiest days came when he was sick, such as Amir's marriage.
I think the ways Baba has changed are very positive. Baba grows sick and weak in America. This changes Baba into a man who must rely on his son. This change in Baba is positive because it forces him to gain trust in Amir and strengthens their relationship. Their relationship also becomes stronger when Baba accepts the fact that Amir is pursuing a career in writing. He questions Amir at first but by accepting it, Baba proves his new found trust and appreciation of Amir. The changes that America has provoked in Baba are very positive and strenghten their father son bond.
I think that the changes in Baba are more positive than tragic. Even though Baba is no longer rich and works in a low-paying job, he goes through positive emotional changes. He is finally able to accept Amir for who is, and seems happy for Amir, which was very rare when they lived in Afghanistan. Amir also begins to think more of Baba as his true father and accepts the fact that he treated Hassan as a son.
Baba and Amir's relationship changed greatly once they came to America. There was a greater respect establiched between them and Baba begins to treat his son better than he did in Kabul. He appreciates his sons hard work and also works hard as well. Baba is proud of his son for the first time in Amirs life and Amir begins to see his father in a different light and sees that he is a more complex man than he previously thoguht.
After Amir and Baba move to the United States, their relationship changes dramatically. Amir begins to see Baba as a more complex man, and a better man than he used to. I believe that these changes are positive, because it brings the two of them closer together than they have ever been, even during the period of time after the kite tournament. They learn to support each other, and confide in each other, and rely on each other, and the relationship becomes infinitely more successful than it ever had been in Wazir Akbar Kahn
Before moving to America, Baba worried about many superficial things. His reputation was his highest priority. Baba would hold parties, and expect Amir to be something he wasn't. Amir was pressured by Baba to get involved with soccer, but because it was not Amir's niche, he felt Baba's dissaproval.
Once Baba lost everything he had in America because of the Russians invading, Baba also lost his ego. He was no longer ashamed to have Amir as a son, and they grew closer. They worked to please each other, and they were not distracted by things without moral value. Moving to California helped the father and son realize the most important thing they could ever have was each other.
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